EF 100-300 or EF 70-300?

What do you recommend:

EF 100-300mm F/4.5-5.6 USM Rear-Focus
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/items/12059.jpg

or:
EF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 IS micro-USM
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/items/397663.jpg

prices by B&H:
100-300: $280
70-300: $560

the 100-300 has internal rear focus; focus window; non-circulating front
the 70-300 ha the IS, and zoom lock (against creep)

more details:
100-300:

Filter 58mm
f/Stop Range 4.5-32 / 5.6-38
Min Focus Distance 1.5 m
Magnification 1:5
Angle of View 24 to 8°
Groups/Elements 10/13
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70-300:

Filter 58mm
f/Stop Range 4-5.6 max 32
Min Focus Distance 1.5 m
Magnification 1:4
Angle of View 34 to 8°
Groups/Elements 10/15

Thanks!

I'd buy 100-300, the best one is /4 - sigma ;)

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от: artemapei
I'd buy 100-300, the best one is /4 - sigma ;)

why not 70-300 IS?
why 100-300?

the best one is canon 2.8 but no dinero... :-)

100-300 can - fair price, good price/quality ratio.
100-300 sigma - optically very good, almost as good as 70-200/2.8 can

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от: artemapei
100-300 can - fair price, good price/quality ratio.
100-300 sigma - optically very good, almost as good as 70-200/2.8 can

I'm afraid you've misunderstood me.
the choice in this topic is:
-Canon EF 100-300mm F/4.5-5.6 USM back-focus
-Canon EF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 IS micro-USM

so please, if you can, give your choice only between those two.

thanks :)

once again : 100-300

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от: artemapei
once again : 100-300

and why not EF 70-300?
just because of the price?

There were malfunctions in case of 70-300, aspecualy early lenses... Image stab. in portrait orientation creates blur... Canon itself has acknowleged the problem.

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от: DHL
There were malfunctions in case of 70-300, aspecualy early lenses... Image stab. in portrait orientation creates blur... Canon itself has acknowleged the problem.

That is correct:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=PgComSmModDisplayAct&keycode=2112&fcategoryid=216&modelid=11922

but i'm talking of a comparison of a good lens of course

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от:Roman Dreer
What do you recommend:

EF 100-300mm F/4.5-5.6 USM Rear-Focus
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/items/12059.jpg

or:
EF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 IS micro-USM
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/items/397663.jpg

prices by B&H:
100-300: $280
70-300: $560

the 100-300 has internal rear focus; focus window; non-circulating front
the 70-300 ha the IS, and zoom lock (against creep)

more details:
100-300:

Filter 58mm
f/Stop Range 4.5-32 / 5.6-38
Min Focus Distance 1.5 m
Magnification 1:5
Angle of View 24 to 8°
Groups/Elements 10/13
--------------------
70-300:

Filter 58mm
f/Stop Range 4-5.6 max 32
Min Focus Distance 1.5 m
Magnification 1:4
Angle of View 34 to 8°
Groups/Elements 10/15

Thanks!

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Are you going to use tripod?
As for me I can't take sharp images handholding any lens @ 300mm at 1/400+ :(

But 70-300 IS is really nice for that money, sharper than 100-300.
I tested it as well as 70-200 f/4.0, difference in IQ was indistinguishable.

However AF speed is slower (compared to 100-300)
and build quality is worse (compared to 70-200L)

BTW IS is worth the money
8)

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от:maratus
Are you going to use tripod?
As for me I can't take sharp images handholding any lens @ 300mm at 1/400+ :(

But 70-300 IS is really nice for that money, sharper than 100-300.
I tested it as well as 70-200 f/4.0, difference in IQ was indistinguishable.

However AF speed is slower (compared to 100-300)
and build quality is worse (compared to 70-200L)

BTW IS is worth the money
8)

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I have a tripod, but of course it is about without the tripod, otherwise what for do i need the IS?!

and it is SO great that i've found you, who has used both.

can you tell more please about the lenses?

Thanks!

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от: DHL
There were malfunctions in case of 70-300, aspecualy early lenses... Image stab. in portrait orientation creates blur... Canon itself has acknowleged the problem.

Not long time ago I used 70-300 IS, DO version. there was no real problem! a very little blur in portrait orientation! there is a difference only at 100% zoom. But lens is great. the best choice, if you are not about to buy an L-series lenses

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от:laggi
Not long time ago I used 70-300 IS, DO version. there was no real problem! a very little blur in portrait orientation! there is a difference only at 100% zoom. But lens is great. the best choice, if you are not about to buy an L-series lenses

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Come on... the DO lens is COMPLETLY different lens

Что за ???
На тарабарском в сети больше пообщаться негде???
Освободите русскоязычный сайт!!!

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от:Roman Dreer
Цитата:

от:laggi
Not long time ago I used 70-300 IS, DO version. there was no real problem! a very little blur in portrait orientation! there is a difference only at 100% zoom. But lens is great. the best choice, if you are not about to buy an L-series lenses

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Come on... the DO lens is COMPLETLY different lens

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DO sucks

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от:Roman Dreer

I have a tripod, but of course it is about without the tripod, otherwise what for do i need the IS?!

and it is SO great that i've found you, who has used both.

can you tell more please about the lenses?

Thanks!

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Unfo I can't say a lot about 100-300 except fast AF and less sharp
And I haven't got any experience with 70-300 DO IS



1. FTM isn't smth i really need

2. 70-200 is longer, and (!!) everyone pays attention on it - because of white colour (downside for me)

3. IQ - hard to say, big prints (30*45)
70-300 IS (non-DO) = 70-200 4L
70-300 IS is "L-like" for me, haven't got portrait problems w/ "my" lens (used it ~4-5 days)
Both are very sharp wide open.
Body - EOS-30D

4. Built Quality - 70-200 4L hands down.... It's not weather-sealed, but fell Xtreme well-built, 70-300 IS is worse :(

5. AF speed.... hard to say - both aren't very fast, but 70-200 is faster (thanks to IF)
ANd both are slower than 100-300mm (IMHO)
Body - EOS-30D

6. IS - there's no point for me to have telephoto lens without IS. It's very helpful for everyday shots, tripod is no option for me.
I haven't tried MODE 2 (only vert stab) for action fotos though

OVERALL:
Image quality is comparable
AF speed is faster on 70-200
70-200 : you pay for decent IQ, built Q, constant Aperrture (BTW rather small difference - 70-300@200m has f5)
70-300 : you pay for decent IQ, IS and Telephoto end

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от: Фролов Анатолий
Что за херня???
На тарабарском в сети больше пообщаться негде???
Освободите русскоязычный сайт!!!

ia izvinaus, ia prosto previk shto ludi obichno znaut angliski.
no a tak eto dovolno
oops, i eto na angliskom... he he :)
no eto uze ne ia a smili saita ;)

to maratus:
Thanks!
You indeed added clearity to the issue.

There is no sense in comparison between outdated and discontinued 100-300 USM and 70-300 IS USM. Latter is much better that first one.
Choosing of Sigma 100-300/4 and 70-300/4-5.6 IS USM is PITA. Sigma is better in terms of optical quality, but Canon lighter, smaller and have an IS.
I've chosen Canon for it size and weigth as a travel lens. Optically, Sigma at 300 mm is better. However, I likek Canon's bokeh more that Sigma's.

Янки го хоум, плиз :)